[BALU] Dualie deal at newegg and death of an obsession.

Jim Vines jgoodguy at charter.net
Mon Jun 11 11:21:38 CDT 2007


yea maybe like the http://tinyurl.com/25cgql for a C note. 

There are some sub $100 MBs for this baby.

OHHHH the agony. 

Jim


Thomas Stover wrote:
> Well for obsession sake you might want to contemplate the L2 cache. 
> Xeon still beats that. Opteron is really the Xeon competitor though. I 
> love must say that I love my Athlon 64 X2 3800 home workstation.
>
> jim wrote:
>
>> AMD Athlon 64 X2 3600+ Brisbane 1.9GHz 2 x 512KB L2 Cache Socket AM2
>> Processor - OEM
>> $59.00 including shipping. 
>> http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16819103036
>>
>> as comparison.
>> A pair of used 1.8 zeons are $34 including shipping on ebay.  (3600
>> total same as above athlon)
>> http://tinyurl.com/38tslp
>>
>> I like old school, but when new stuff is less than $25 from old stuff
>> and the hassle of finding a MB is much less and the total package of mb
>> and procs might be the same, then old school may be the more
>> expensive.    The other thing is that you need a case that can handle an
>> extended ATX case for most xeon MBs.   (there are full ATXs out there,
>> but rarer).   While, if you are a bit strange, you can put a X2 on a
>> micro ATX.
>> I have not shopped the intel side, because the deals that have passed my
>> way have been AMDs.
>>
>> My current estimate for a dual 4400 xeon is $40 for the MB and $40 for
>> the procs including shipping.   That is if you shop and are patient.  
>> My 4400 MB and procs ran about that.   Real patient and lucky can shave
>> $15-20 off of that.   Total $80.   And there were issues with heat sink
>> mounts and back io plate(none)    The proc supports MMX, SSE, SSE2,
>> Hyper-Threading.
>>
>> OTOH, Frys was selling AMD X2 4400s for $70 including shipping(OEM no
>> fan) (05/24) and a nice retail MB for it was $50 from Newegg including
>> shipping.  Total $120 for the new vs $80 for the old.   The proc
>> supports MMX, SSE, SSE2, SSE3, Enhanced 3DNow!, NX bit, AMD64 (AMD's
>> x86-64 implementation), Cool'n'Quiet, AMD Virtualization.  IO plate and
>> heat sink mounts included.
>> The difference is $40 with a lot less hassles and risk.   Ebay stuff has
>> no warrenty to speak of vs months to years for the new stuff.
>>
>> Needless to say, my xeon obsession is over.
>>
>> Please remember, I am a shopper and these deals pop up and 
>> disappear:   The best case for EBAY is about $55 for a dual 2.2 xeon 
>> if you are lucky
>> and real patient.  The average case for the AMD is $115 for the proc and
>> $50 for the MB.  Total $165 for both.  So you could in theory save $110,
>> if you just went and bought vs best possible EBAY. 
>>
>>
>> Jim
>>
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