[BALU] OT Limiting internet

Jim Vines jgoodguy at charter.net
Mon Jun 4 10:58:35 CDT 2007


Well, you could do the host thing, block the offending site and when the 
complaint happens,  drop by the desk and pull up ligit sites to show it 
is working and then force the target to complain about the not legit 
site and then be unable to fix the problem.    Gee boss, it must be our 
ISP, their ISP or a virus.  I'll look into it asap, then prioritized it 
somewhere below going outside to check for the second coming.    In 
short make the bureaucracy work for you. 

In any case, do the host thing, make the employee complain about the 
internet, stop by and demonstrate that they can get to official work 
sites.  Force the employee to complain about not having access to a non 
work site and then be creatively incompetent in fixing it.    Doc the 
fact that the internet was working for official sites.    If you want to 
be real creative, use the host file to redirect requests for the 
offending site to the corporate home page.   Don't mention to a soul 
that you monkeyed with the host file. 

And do you have any openings.  ;-)

Jim


Jason Sandlin wrote:
> The site she goes to is not a problem. The problem is the simple fact 
> that she goes to these sites when she should be working. I was asked 
> to cut her internet off by management but as soonas I do they will 
> play dumb and ask me to see why her internet quite working (but not 
> fix it yet). I know this from past experience. So if I could just bog 
> it down to where surfing was just a pain that would make my life easier.
>  I may just refuse to do it and force management to handle the 
> problem. I would be the bad guy for a couple weeks but the problem 
> would go away for good. The problem with our management is no one 
> wants to be the bad guy.
>
> Man times have changed from when I started working.
>
> On 6/4/07, *Jim Vines* <jgoodguy at charter.net 
> <mailto:jgoodguy at charter.net>> wrote:
>
>     Yea what are the regulations and is Jason's boss following corporate
>     policy.  If not Jason could be in danger.
>
>     Generally speaking, all employees are expected to use company
>     resources
>     for company business and should have signed a doc at hire time to that
>     effect.  Internet access should be logged in such a way to
>     identify the
>     party.  That is doc.  Some manager will have to counsel the
>     employee and
>     that meeting doc and signed off by both parties.  Access to some sites
>     can blocked by something as simple as a host file.  (esp on a windows
>     machine.)  Takes no resources.
>
>     Windows Vista      =      C:\WINDOWS\SYSTEM32\DRIVERS\ETC
>     Windows XP     =     C:\WINDOWS\SYSTEM32\DRIVERS\ETC
>     Windows 2K     =     C:\WINNT\SYSTEM32\DRIVERS\ETC
>     Win 98/ME     =     C:\WINDOWS
>
>     name is hosts.
>
>     mine looks like
>
>     # Copyright (c) 1993-1999 Microsoft Corp.
>     #
>     # This is a sample HOSTS file used by Microsoft TCP/IP for Windows.
>     #
>     # This file contains the mappings of IP addresses to host names. Each
>     # entry should be kept on an individual line. The IP address should
>     # be placed in the first column followed by the corresponding host
>     name.
>     # The IP address and the host name should be separated by at least
>     one
>     # space.
>     #
>     # Additionally, comments (such as these) may be inserted on individual
>     # lines or following the machine name denoted by a '#' symbol.
>     #
>     # For example:
>     #
>     #       102.54.94.97 <http://102.54.94.97>     rhino.acme.com
>     <http://rhino.acme.com>          # source server
>     #       38.25.63.10 <http://38.25.63.10>     x.acme.com
>     <http://x.acme.com>              # x client host
>
>     127.0.0.1 <http://127.0.0.1>       localhost
>     192.168.5.194 <http://192.168.5.194>   www.jimvines.pc
>
>     ------
>
>
>     If you wanted to block ebay for example add:
>
>     127.0.0.1 <http://127.0.0.1>  www.ebay.com <http://www.ebay.com>
>
>
>     Remember this is very cheap and not too well known.  PW protect the
>     windows folder and the employee cannot change it.
>
>
>     Remember, with doc, your legal bills are minimal.    With doc, your
>     lawyer tells their lawyer what is there and the opposing lawyer will
>     either not take the case or advise his client to drop it.    No doc
>     smells like there is something there.   Think of it as anti virus
>     software.   It's a pain, it eats up resources, but the alternative
>     ......
>
>     Jim
>
>     Lane Oden wrote:
>     > Joseph Blake wrote:
>     >
>     >> Last I checked Alabama was a hire at will state. As long as you
>     don't
>     >> fire someone for an explicitly illegal reason (discrimination)
>     then
>     >> you don't need any documentation.
>     >>
>     >>
>     >
>     > Eh... It is and isn't that simple. A lot of organizations
>     (particularly companies that exist in more than just Alabama)
>     maintain (good) HR policies that prevent people from being fired
>     on a whim and open up some legal liabilities for poorly documented
>     terminations, even in at-will employment states.
>     >
>     > Plus burden of proof for disproving discrimination is on the
>     employer. Especially in AL, it'd be a PR nightmare for an
>     organization to let someone go, be accused of discrimination and
>     not have the paperwork to back up why you let the person go. Even
>     if you won the legal battle, your name would get dragged through
>     the mud.
>     >
>     > "You fired me. It was discrimination. Enjoy the lawsuit. I
>     called ABC 33/40 and now I can find a lawyer for free."
>     >
>     > I had a friend who was a call center manager for a while who
>     said, "I've never fired anyone. They always manage to fire
>     themselves." And whether they fired themselves or not, their
>     perception is always going to be that you have somehow threatened
>     their livelihood and well-being. Humans are vindictive and petty.
>     Make sure your ish does not stink before proceeding here.
>     >
>     > I'm not saying this is entirely an IT problem. I'm not saying
>     it's entirely a management problem.
>     >
>     > Jason, does your company/this user's department have an AUP that
>     mentions what content is and is not suitable for computer use
>     during work hours? Can you bust her on it? What kind of surfing
>     are you talking about? Blogging? Ebay? Can you manage to squeeze a
>     transparent proxy in to throttle/filter on a lightweight machine?
>     >
>     > Lane
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