[BALU] OT Limiting internet

Jason Sandlin crane.aswp at gmail.com
Mon Jun 4 10:42:45 CDT 2007

The site she goes to is not a problem. The problem is the simple fact that
she goes to these sites when she should be working. I was asked to cut her
internet off by management but as soonas I do they will play dumb and ask me
to see why her internet quite working (but not fix it yet). I know this from
past experience. So if I could just bog it down to where surfing was just a
pain that would make my life easier.
 I may just refuse to do it and force management to handle the problem. I
would be the bad guy for a couple weeks but the problem would go away for
good. The problem with our management is no one wants to be the bad guy.

Man times have changed from when I started working.

On 6/4/07, Jim Vines <jgoodguy at charter.net> wrote:
> Yea what are the regulations and is Jason's boss following corporate
> policy.  If not Jason could be in danger.
> Generally speaking, all employees are expected to use company resources
> for company business and should have signed a doc at hire time to that
> effect.  Internet access should be logged in such a way to identify the
> party.  That is doc.  Some manager will have to counsel the employee and
> that meeting doc and signed off by both parties.  Access to some sites
> can blocked by something as simple as a host file.  (esp on a windows
> machine.)  Takes no resources.
> Windows Vista      =      C:\WINDOWS\SYSTEM32\DRIVERS\ETC
> Windows XP     =     C:\WINDOWS\SYSTEM32\DRIVERS\ETC
> Windows 2K     =     C:\WINNT\SYSTEM32\DRIVERS\ETC
> Win 98/ME     =     C:\WINDOWS
> name is hosts.
> mine looks like
> # Copyright (c) 1993-1999 Microsoft Corp.
> #
> # This is a sample HOSTS file used by Microsoft TCP/IP for Windows.
> #
> # This file contains the mappings of IP addresses to host names. Each
> # entry should be kept on an individual line. The IP address should
> # be placed in the first column followed by the corresponding host name.
> # The IP address and the host name should be separated by at least one
> # space.
> #
> # Additionally, comments (such as these) may be inserted on individual
> # lines or following the machine name denoted by a '#' symbol.
> #
> # For example:
> #
> #     rhino.acme.com          # source server
> #     x.acme.com              # x client host
>       localhost
>   www.jimvines.pc
> ------
> If you wanted to block ebay for example add:
>  www.ebay.com
> Remember this is very cheap and not too well known.  PW protect the
> windows folder and the employee cannot change it.
> Remember, with doc, your legal bills are minimal.    With doc, your
> lawyer tells their lawyer what is there and the opposing lawyer will
> either not take the case or advise his client to drop it.    No doc
> smells like there is something there.   Think of it as anti virus
> software.   It's a pain, it eats up resources, but the alternative ......
> Jim
> Lane Oden wrote:
> > Joseph Blake wrote:
> >
> >> Last I checked Alabama was a hire at will state. As long as you don't
> >> fire someone for an explicitly illegal reason (discrimination) then
> >> you don't need any documentation.
> >>
> >>
> >
> > Eh... It is and isn't that simple. A lot of organizations (particularly
> companies that exist in more than just Alabama) maintain (good) HR policies
> that prevent people from being fired on a whim and open up some legal
> liabilities for poorly documented terminations, even in at-will employment
> states.
> >
> > Plus burden of proof for disproving discrimination is on the employer.
> Especially in AL, it'd be a PR nightmare for an organization to let someone
> go, be accused of discrimination and not have the paperwork to back up why
> you let the person go. Even if you won the legal battle, your name would get
> dragged through the mud.
> >
> > "You fired me. It was discrimination. Enjoy the lawsuit. I called ABC
> 33/40 and now I can find a lawyer for free."
> >
> > I had a friend who was a call center manager for a while who said, "I've
> never fired anyone. They always manage to fire themselves." And whether they
> fired themselves or not, their perception is always going to be that you
> have somehow threatened their livelihood and well-being. Humans are
> vindictive and petty. Make sure your ish does not stink before proceeding
> here.
> >
> > I'm not saying this is entirely an IT problem. I'm not saying it's
> entirely a management problem.
> >
> > Jason, does your company/this user's department have an AUP that
> mentions what content is and is not suitable for computer use during work
> hours? Can you bust her on it? What kind of surfing are you talking about?
> Blogging? Ebay? Can you manage to squeeze a transparent proxy in to
> throttle/filter on a lightweight machine?
> >
> > Lane
> >
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